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Andrea F



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PostSubject: Tiger Tiger...   Wed May 07, 2008 2:35 pm

I thought I would post the rest of the poem that is started in the very begining of the book. Its something to keep in mind when reading about the character... (plus its one of my favorite poems study )

The Tiger
By William Blake
1757-1827
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TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And water'd heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee?

Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
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PostSubject: Re: Tiger Tiger...   Wed May 07, 2008 3:27 pm

Yeah, I love this poem. It's from the Songs of Experience, right? I know that it's frequently compared and contrasted with "The Lamb" in the Songs of Innocence. And here's that poem, just for fun:

Little Lamb who made thee?
Dost thou know who made thee?
Gave thee life and bid thee feed
By the stream and o'er the mead;
Gave thee clothing of delight,
Softest clothing woolly bright;
Gave thee such a tender voice,
Making all the vales rejoice.
Little Lamb who made thee?
Dost thou know who made thee?

Little Lamb I'll tell thee,
Little Lamb I'll tell thee;
He is called by thy name,
For he calls himself a lamb.
He is meek and he is mild;
He became a little child.
I a child and thou a lamb,
We are called by his name.
Little Lamb God bless thee.
Little Lamb God bless thee.
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Andrea F



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PostSubject: Re: Tiger Tiger...   Sun May 11, 2008 10:28 pm

Wow...after finishing, the poem does match up with the character, what with the size, the fire, the heart...etc. and he does kinda win in the end, so it goes along the line, who would dare try to trap or control him. He can jaunte space and time. Who is going to beat that?
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PostSubject: Re: Tiger Tiger...   Mon May 12, 2008 12:35 am

In the foreword it said that originally the book was called "Tiger, Tiger" and there are many references to all the recurring characters as tigers as well...along with Foyle's very obvious facial tiger stripes.
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PostSubject: Re: Tiger Tiger...   Mon May 12, 2008 12:42 am

I remembered that poem and Blake's idea of with experience comes corruption as I read the opening and kept that in mind as I read the book. I think Bester did a great job of incorporating the underlying idea of relating Foyle to the Tiger, along with several explicit references to the tiger (people calling him a Tiger, the tattoos, etc)
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PostSubject: Re: Tiger Tiger...   Mon May 12, 2008 12:44 am

It's funny how much we've progressed as readers. I remember trying to decipher this poem along with the rest of my classmates the first week of sophomore year (high school), and it took us the entire period to actually get somewhere. Some girl piped up about a religious reference in the stanza with the lamb about 20 minutes to the bell, and only then did we start recognizing the poem for more than just describing a tiger. Now, several years later, everything we've discussed seems so clear at first glance.

Maybe the book taken with respect to the poem acts as commentary on human potential, for both right and wrong. Haha. Just trying to be on topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Tiger Tiger...   Wed May 14, 2008 4:38 pm

What vinvent said was really funny and totally true. Then I saw the poem at the beginning of the noval it brought back some memories. I never even realized the similarities between the noval and the poem, that's interesting!
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